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		<title>By: David Dower</title>
		<link>http://www.2amtheatre.com/2010/02/08/define-your-terms/comment-page-1/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>David Dower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started a response here, Travis, but it turned into an essay, so I&#039; moved it to the New Play Blog...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started a response here, Travis, but it turned into an essay, so I&#8217; moved it to the New Play Blog&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Zev Valancy</title>
		<link>http://www.2amtheatre.com/2010/02/08/define-your-terms/comment-page-1/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Zev Valancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only problem with either of those definitions (and I rather like &quot;written within the past year&quot;), is that they&#039;d seem to contribute to the syndrome of shows getting only a world premiere and never seen again, because they have neither the aura of &quot;new&quot; nor a proven track record of being a hit.

For those purposes, I&#039;d define as &quot;within two seasons of the first production, and never before produced in that area.&quot; To pick an example--&quot;In the Next Room&quot; premiered in Berkeley in February of 2009, and was produced on Broadway in November of 2009. If it has its Chicago premiere next season, will it still count as a &quot;new play&quot;? I&#039;d say that it should.

And even if that categorically counts as just a &quot;local premiere,&quot; (and I can see the argument for that), I&#039;d argue that we need to be supporting those just as much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only problem with either of those definitions (and I rather like &#8220;written within the past year&#8221;), is that they&#8217;d seem to contribute to the syndrome of shows getting only a world premiere and never seen again, because they have neither the aura of &#8220;new&#8221; nor a proven track record of being a hit.</p>
<p>For those purposes, I&#8217;d define as &#8220;within two seasons of the first production, and never before produced in that area.&#8221; To pick an example&#8211;&#8221;In the Next Room&#8221; premiered in Berkeley in February of 2009, and was produced on Broadway in November of 2009. If it has its Chicago premiere next season, will it still count as a &#8220;new play&#8221;? I&#8217;d say that it should.</p>
<p>And even if that categorically counts as just a &#8220;local premiere,&#8221; (and I can see the argument for that), I&#8217;d argue that we need to be supporting those just as much.</p>
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		<title>By: Monica Reida</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monica Reida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 05:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to think of a previously unproduced play when I hear &quot;new work.&quot;  But I do like the idea of defining a new play as &quot;written within the past year.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to think of a previously unproduced play when I hear &#8220;new work.&#8221;  But I do like the idea of defining a new play as &#8220;written within the past year.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: David J. Loehr</title>
		<link>http://www.2amtheatre.com/2010/02/08/define-your-terms/comment-page-1/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>David J. Loehr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooo, I like the idea of &quot;written within the past year.&quot;  That allows for tinkering, any kind of workshop or production, etc, but still puts a &quot;freshness date&quot; on the script for those who care.  The author has worked on this script within the last year, therefore it is a new play.  Works for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooo, I like the idea of &#8220;written within the past year.&#8221;  That allows for tinkering, any kind of workshop or production, etc, but still puts a &#8220;freshness date&#8221; on the script for those who care.  The author has worked on this script within the last year, therefore it is a new play.  Works for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Alison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting question to me, because I work as an arts journalist, so I often have to figure out what can be defined as a &quot;new&quot; play for the purposes of pitching and writing about it. 

Usually, the expression &quot;new play&quot; comes with some sort of qualifier: &quot;newest play from whatever hot playwright&quot; or &quot;first full production of this company&#039;s latest work&quot; or &quot;new to Toronto&quot; (aka local premiere). 

Instinctively, I think I define &quot;new play&quot; as either &quot;never been seen before&quot; or &quot;written within the past year&quot;. After that, it can be a local premiere, or someone&#039;s latest play.

But when I hear &quot;new play&quot;, I definitely think new written work, not a new production. In any case, I think David has it right in his last paragraph - everything&#039;s new to someone, the main thing is a good story. Spin is easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting question to me, because I work as an arts journalist, so I often have to figure out what can be defined as a &#8220;new&#8221; play for the purposes of pitching and writing about it. </p>
<p>Usually, the expression &#8220;new play&#8221; comes with some sort of qualifier: &#8220;newest play from whatever hot playwright&#8221; or &#8220;first full production of this company&#8217;s latest work&#8221; or &#8220;new to Toronto&#8221; (aka local premiere). </p>
<p>Instinctively, I think I define &#8220;new play&#8221; as either &#8220;never been seen before&#8221; or &#8220;written within the past year&#8221;. After that, it can be a local premiere, or someone&#8217;s latest play.</p>
<p>But when I hear &#8220;new play&#8221;, I definitely think new written work, not a new production. In any case, I think David has it right in his last paragraph &#8211; everything&#8217;s new to someone, the main thing is a good story. Spin is easy.</p>
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		<title>By: David J. Loehr</title>
		<link>http://www.2amtheatre.com/2010/02/08/define-your-terms/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>David J. Loehr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a good question.  If I write a play and produce it, then rewrite it from top to bottom but leave the title alone, is it a new play the next time it&#039;s produced?  I ask having done just that last year.

It was new to Indiana residents in 2006, and it was new to D.C. residents in 2009.  But it was a substantially different script and so could well have been new to the same Indiana audience.

I like the definition of &quot;a play that has never been produced anywhere else before,&quot; and that&#039;s surely the core of the term.  And &quot;local premiere&quot; is an important qualifier.  By that, Stoppard&#039;s &quot;The Real Thing&quot; would be a new play in my area.  (Sad but true.)

Seems to me we need to rip away some of the qualifiers and ask about scale.  Several years ago, &quot;The Drawer Boy&quot; rose up out of nowhere and was The It Play for theatres around the U.S. and Canada.  It was a new play to me at the time, and it was promoted as such most every place I saw here in the U.S., but it had a good history in Canada before that.

I see the same thing happening with Itamar Moses&#039; work, that suddenly it&#039;s pronounced A New Play and everyone can produce &quot;The Four of Us&quot; now.  (Which is a shame, because it really needs, oh, I don&#039;t know, an actual story.)  Certain playwrights are at this level where the theatre world is paying close attention, awaiting their next &quot;New Play,&quot; while the rest of us go on about our daily lives, writing new plays.  It&#039;s a semantic difference, to be sure, but these days, &quot;New Play&quot; is almost a brand for some theatres, a seal of approval if you will.  &quot;It&#039;s okay to produce this, ATL did it at Humana, the Goodman&#039;s doing it next month, go right ahead.&quot;

Is there maybe a minimum of actual productions before we can call a play &quot;finished,&quot; and then another minimum number during which it can be considered a &quot;New Play?&quot;  I&#039;d say running through the mill at the Humana Festival might do it, but even then, I know a lot of plays that have been heavily revised after the festival.  So they&#039;re still not finished.

With our company, I&#039;ve stopped worrying about such distinctions.  For our audiences, most everything is new.  It&#039;s not an important draw for them.  They&#039;re just interested in seeing good stories told well.  We try to live up to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a good question.  If I write a play and produce it, then rewrite it from top to bottom but leave the title alone, is it a new play the next time it&#8217;s produced?  I ask having done just that last year.</p>
<p>It was new to Indiana residents in 2006, and it was new to D.C. residents in 2009.  But it was a substantially different script and so could well have been new to the same Indiana audience.</p>
<p>I like the definition of &#8220;a play that has never been produced anywhere else before,&#8221; and that&#8217;s surely the core of the term.  And &#8220;local premiere&#8221; is an important qualifier.  By that, Stoppard&#8217;s &#8220;The Real Thing&#8221; would be a new play in my area.  (Sad but true.)</p>
<p>Seems to me we need to rip away some of the qualifiers and ask about scale.  Several years ago, &#8220;The Drawer Boy&#8221; rose up out of nowhere and was The It Play for theatres around the U.S. and Canada.  It was a new play to me at the time, and it was promoted as such most every place I saw here in the U.S., but it had a good history in Canada before that.</p>
<p>I see the same thing happening with Itamar Moses&#8217; work, that suddenly it&#8217;s pronounced A New Play and everyone can produce &#8220;The Four of Us&#8221; now.  (Which is a shame, because it really needs, oh, I don&#8217;t know, an actual story.)  Certain playwrights are at this level where the theatre world is paying close attention, awaiting their next &#8220;New Play,&#8221; while the rest of us go on about our daily lives, writing new plays.  It&#8217;s a semantic difference, to be sure, but these days, &#8220;New Play&#8221; is almost a brand for some theatres, a seal of approval if you will.  &#8220;It&#8217;s okay to produce this, ATL did it at Humana, the Goodman&#8217;s doing it next month, go right ahead.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is there maybe a minimum of actual productions before we can call a play &#8220;finished,&#8221; and then another minimum number during which it can be considered a &#8220;New Play?&#8221;  I&#8217;d say running through the mill at the Humana Festival might do it, but even then, I know a lot of plays that have been heavily revised after the festival.  So they&#8217;re still not finished.</p>
<p>With our company, I&#8217;ve stopped worrying about such distinctions.  For our audiences, most everything is new.  It&#8217;s not an important draw for them.  They&#8217;re just interested in seeing good stories told well.  We try to live up to that.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A group of us were trying to do this for a wiki idea I was working on. The ideas was that we would have icons for each of these. I like:

New - never before produced anywhere
Fresh - previously produced as reading, workshop or heavily rewritten
Local Premier - play from somewhere else that has never been performed here
Rare Revival - play that rarely sees the light of day

As the categories of what a &quot;new play&quot; would be. I think these sum up what people who are interested in &quot;new&quot; are looking for. You could probably add &quot;New Classic&quot;, &quot;Warhorse&quot;, and &quot;Chesnut&quot; to that list and get pretty much everything in theater today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A group of us were trying to do this for a wiki idea I was working on. The ideas was that we would have icons for each of these. I like:</p>
<p>New &#8211; never before produced anywhere<br />
Fresh &#8211; previously produced as reading, workshop or heavily rewritten<br />
Local Premier &#8211; play from somewhere else that has never been performed here<br />
Rare Revival &#8211; play that rarely sees the light of day</p>
<p>As the categories of what a &#8220;new play&#8221; would be. I think these sum up what people who are interested in &#8220;new&#8221; are looking for. You could probably add &#8220;New Classic&#8221;, &#8220;Warhorse&#8221;, and &#8220;Chesnut&#8221; to that list and get pretty much everything in theater today.</p>
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